FULL EXCERPTS FROM “SAVE CEDAR MT.” FACEBOOK PAGE
2/26/2011 – 11:24 a.m.

 

Bernadette Conway Mayor, You don't seem to understand that any development of that mountain is devastating news to us. We love having the natural, untouched beauty of the WHOLE mountain here in our town. We worry about the wildlife, loss of open space and loss of something intangible such as knowing that part of our life and town is changing. We certainly do not look at it the same way as you. You come here on our website dedicated to saving it and keep insisting that this is a good thing. We are sharing information and venting. We are disappointed. We are sad. We are mad. And you keep insisting it's a good thing - we are going from 92% developed to 96% developed with this plan - we don't see that as win-win.. As an elected official you've got to expect that people are not always going to agree with you. We as residents have every right to our opinions. I would think that as an elected official you would have more integrity than to insult our members as you have on this site.

17 minutes ago · Like · 


Doug Harlow I may have already posted this thought, but it's worth repeating - what we did in little Athens Maine in 2005 was to first circulate a petition calling for a special town meeting to vote on a moratorium on all new construction in a designated area. Once the meeting was legally called, we voted. We were trying to prevent an incinerator that would have burned construction and demolition debris. A vote later extended the moratorium and the permit times elapsed. We won.

24 minutes ago · Like 

Gayle Raducha Wright - I asked you to address 5 specific issues that would arise pre/post construction. Your response was "Gayle- how often do you see the black helicopters over Cedar Mountain?" Is that your "official" response? Are you kidding me? and then a "WTF" comment from you as well? You need to step down from office. No self respecting politician would be acting the way that you are, and no self respecting town would allow this type of behavior. You've done enough damage. It's time to retire

about an hour ago · Like · 


Gayle Raducha Wright - For once, just this once, how about representing the people, and not big money? How about fighting with the residents, who elected you, not against them? you openly admitted that you are a pawn in this whole thing by stating "you're just the messenger". Why are you trying to convince us that Toll Bros. plan is so wonderful? Shouldn't they be the ones trying to get the towns approval? Why should they bother - they have the mayor delivering their messages for them.

4 hours ago · Like · 


Jeff Wright Look, as Mayor, I am just trying to provide information and perspective, many of you folks are just looking to take out your anger on someone and i don't want to be your target. Don't shoot the messenger. Clearly, most of the folks commenting on this website don't want to hear the other side of the story or the merits of the potential compromise to receive half of Cedar Mountain (including the whole ridge line) as a donation to Newington for free, therefore I am not sure why any public official would try to rationalize with you folks. Good luck with your radical agenda of spending the taxpayers money.
I just hope the majority of those looking at this page look at both sides of the discussion, instead of the pure emotion. Based on the abuse I have been receiving, I'm not sure if anyone else with an opposing view would dare to comment.

13 hours ago · Like · 

Kelly Mowchan 
Mayor Wright,

The Save Cedar Mountain group is very passionate about saving the entire mountain. In as much as you continue to voice your opinions on this forum, they differ vastly from those of the people who frequent this site. Obviously there are a lot of unanswered questions people have regarding the project. I would hope that you as mayor would consider why everyone feels so strongly about this position, including those from surrounding towns. Although you feel that your way may be the correct way, it is highly unlikely that you will change the opinions of the members of this site. To us, it isn’t just about the ridgeline. This is about saving a natural resource that we are so fortunate to have this close to home. It is not necessarily a win-win for Newington as you insist. Regardless if it is one piece of the mountain, or the entire mountain, anything done up there will impact all the families in the community, including those of future generations. Have you fully considered how it will affect the ecosystem and wildlife, as well as the aesthetics of the entire project?

I would like to remind you that some of the most difficult decisions regarding the preservation of natural resources in America have been made by some of our greatest leaders.
11 hours ago · Like


Lucy Fleming Kelly, obviously the Mayor is not for the citizens of Newington. We need to take this further and get the Courant and TV stations involved. It's not just Newington that doesn't want it develop but also surrounding towns!
9 hours ago · Like


Kelly Mowchan HEAD OVER TO THE SAVE CEDAR MOUNTAIN FAN PAGE AND INVITE YOUR FRIENDS!
http://www.facebook.com/savecedarmountain
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Gayle Raducha All of these issues have already been looked at and discounted. 
1. the 48 acres that are supposedly being "given" to Newington are already zoned as wetlands and protected grounds. Your buddies Toll Bros. couldn't build there even if they wanted to.
2. the ENTIRE MT. already has beautiful hiking trails, and actual wildlife that will no longer be there after Toll Bros starts blasting.
3. They are donating land that they can't use anyway. Big deal.
4. This will not create ANY jobs - Toll uses their own labor. There will be few if any people hired during construction. I guess you can say it will increase the housing stock, since any neighborhood within miles of the blasting will be destroyed. They'll need to look for somewhere else to live.

What you believe is making sure your buddies get what they've been after for 3 years. I thought politicians were voted in by the people, not big money. It's been obvious for the past 3 years where you've stood on this issue.

19 hours ago · Like · 

Jeff Wright Gayle- you are so wrong about the facts and clearly the truth does not matter to you. 
I guess the blind squirrel doesn't always find an acorn.
13 hours ago · Like


Gayle Raducha the truth is very important to me - but I have yet to hear it. and, At least the squirrel is out IN THE WOODS looking for his food instead of being wined and dined by the hawk that is just waiting for the right moment to get rid of the foolish squirrel - who became fat and happy, oblivious to the fact that he was merely the hawks next meal.
5 hours ago · Like


Jeff Wright Ladies and gentlemen, this new plan is an amazing win- win for everyone; 1. It preserves 48 of the 101 acres, including the whole ridge line 
2. Creates public hiking trails and public parking, no more trespassing.
3. It is a donation to Newington, no cost to the taxpayers.
4. Create jobs and improves the housing stock of Newington.
I just don't believe this is the time to spend tens of millions of dollars to buy the mountain, when we can get the best half of the land free!

21 hours ago · Like 

 


Kelly Mowchan I didn't think this was the time to dump a lot of money into Market Sq. either, but that certainty happened. And why do we need more homes? We basically live on a major highway as it is. If I wanted to live in such an overdeveloped area I would move to the city.
19 hours ago · Like

Gayle Raducha After the mountain is destroyed, we'll all be living in an overdeveloped area. Cedar Mountain in its natural state is a huge attraction to potential home buyers - but destroying the towns only natural asset just to put up condos and homes that won't even sell in this market is bizarre.
18 hours ago · Like

Gayle Raducha 

Mr.Wright - could you please address the following issues, since you seem to continually spout the benefits of your win-win campaign.

1. What are your plans to compensate, fix, relocate the residents (both Wethersfield and Newington) whose homes are damaged due to the blasting required to build on the Mt.?
2. How will the traffic issues on the Berlin Tpke be addressed BEFORE any of the construction begins? What is the cost to the Newington taxpayers for new roads, lights, redirecting traffic, etc.?
3. Please rationalize destroying an entire mountain, its eco-system and the environment to build over priced homes in an economy that is the worst this country has seen in decades?
4. Where will the displaced wildlife go? The surrounding neighborhoods? Downtown Newington? Berlin Tpke?? Will it be necessary to destroy these animals because you've destroyed their homes as well?
5. When Toll Bros renegs on their supposed promises to build trails, parking lots, increase jobs - what will your win-win campaign say then???
16 hours ago · Like

Jeff Wright Gayle- how often do you see the black helicopters over Cedar Mountain?
15 hours ago · Like


Danny Quattromani wtf is this guy talking about with black helicopters maybe you see them but i think we see the reality of it mr wright i do not believe how you think its a win win nothing is free
15 hours ago · Like
Danny Quattromani just like the park we needed in the center of town
15 hours ago · Like

Jeff Wright Danny- WTF- isn't that President Obama's re-election slogan of win the future?
13 hours ago · Like


Kelly Mowchan Everyone check out the new page! We have our own URL!
www.facebook.com/savecedarmountain
http://www.facebook.com/savecedarmountain
www.facebook.com

Thursday at 12:56pm · Like ·  · Share

 

Kelly Mowchan Any information posted on the new site will show up in your live feed on your facebook home page! It will now be easier to get information out without having to send multiple emails!

Thursday at 12:57pm · Like


John Vallera I was unable to post anything on your page. If you can get it to work, you can post my slide show link- here it is:https://picasaweb.google.com/johnvallera/CedarMountainInWinter2011?feat=directlink
Thursday at 4:08pm · Like


Kelly Mowchan 
I'm still going to continue handling the site as I have done before. I will only be sending out emails for urgent issues, everything else will be posted as information as received and it will show up on everyone's live feed. People will the...See More
18 hours ago · Like


Bernadette Conway Thank you everyone for all the information posted to the site. I especially want to thank Kelly for giving us this forum to share all of this important information. Keep checking this site for updates.

Thursday at 6:31am · Like · 

John Vallera 
John Vallera Let's all forget Politics here. Excessive construction and development of new housing has not enriched the lives of any community. It looks good on paper (?) then hidden costs climb. I offered the suggestion to contact corporate donors to purchase the parcels of land. Corporations such as MacDonald's and Wal-Mart could post a sign atop the ridge stating that they contributed to the preservation of open space. It would be great for their image.
On another note…I posted a collection of winter scenes taken recently of the area to explain some of the emotions.  I believe long after we’re gone Cedar Mountain will be regarded as the "The Central Park of Newington". 
https://picasaweb.google.com/johnvallera/CedarMountainInWinter2011?feat=directlink
Thursday at 9:37am · Like


Danny Quattromani nice move that would be great to see happen the biggest problem here is that our elected leaders keep forgetting that they work for the people and that it’s their job to represent us instead we have to fight them for what we want it’s sad that mr wright (wrong) even entertains these people
Thursday at 10:28am · Like ·  1 person


Gayle Raducha I see the mayor is using this site to sell his plan (see newest comments). Aren't politicians supposed to be answering to their constituents, and not corporations that don't even have a presence in the town????

18 hours ago · Like


Ettore Namias This is final part of the presentation.

Toll Brothers Presentation to Newington Ct Town Council Part 3
www.youtube.com
Part 3 of town council overview of Cedar Mountain development

Wednesday at 10:18pm · Like ·  · Share


Ettore Namias

Toll Brothers Presentation to Newington Ct Town Council Part 2
www.youtube.com
Part 2 of town council overview of Cedar Mountain development

Wednesday at 10:05pm · Like ·  · Share


John Vallera Please View the Slide Show that I am providing the link to (above). It was the first time that I was able to actually get photos of some of the deer that reside on the trail grounds! Let's pray to keep the bulldozers from going there soon.

Cedar Mountain in Winter 2011
picasaweb.google.com
Photos by john v, Feb 21, 2011 - Although the trails were inaccessable at times, Fine Art Photographer John Vallera was able to bring these views to you in hopes that they will convince the public of the absolute necessity of places like this to exist without being altered by man.

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Gayle Raducha The wildlife on the mountain will yet again be pushed out of their natural habitat. Deer and coyote strikes on the Berlin tpke will cause numerous tie ups, and possibly a few fatalities. Everyone knows what a nightmare the tpke. is. Add car accidents, and a huge housing development, and we can start using the tpke as a parking lot.
Thursday at 2:30am · Like

Ettore Namias

Toll Brothers Presentation to Newington Ct Town Council Part 1
www.youtube.com
Part 1 of town council overview of Cedar Mountain development

Wednesday at 9:57pm · Like ·  · Share


John Vallera I have been hiking with my dog, Sienna on Cedar Mountain for a number of years now because it is all that is left of nature. I will never understand how people could endanger the lives of other living things (and in some cases, other people) in the name of the almighty dollar. Shame on all of you! 

Do we really have a shortage of housing? And does that help lower costs to other tax payers? If so, why has it not been the case after nearly every tree was cut down and taken away from the Berlin Typke. and replaced by businesses?

Wednesday at 9:31pm · Like · 

Ettore Namias 
John, all the arguments from the mayor and especially from TollBros are the same tired empty nonsense proved time again to be vapid.
1. Jobs: TollBros has their own ppl building houses. So no new jobs. Even the temp jobs of construction.
2. Taxes: Revenue from property tax does not cover the costs of services.
3. Only the almighty weak dollar is what both TollBros and the mayor are interested in. And don't forget, TollBros has paid the mayor 'contributions'.
Wednesday at 10:23pm · Like ·  1 person


Lucy Fleming John, that is a great idea to get corporations involved. It would be great for their image. I'd be wiling to help!

Yesterday at 10:02am · Like

Jeff Wright Folks- this is currently private property and you are trespassing when you are hiking up there.
21 hours ago · Like

Gayle Raducha Why should the mayor be so concerned about trespassing on someone else's property?? This isn't town property. Why does he care who's trespassing on private property?? Should homeowners call him directly when someone cuts through their yard? yet again - protecting the rights of big money (and good buddies.)
19 hours ago · Like

Jeff Wright The rule of law and I took an oath
19 hours ago · Like
Michael Shorts Rosenkrantz I think that one of the reasons people think it's ok to hike and walk their dogs on parts of Cedar Mountain is that the Town's Parks & Rec. Department encourages it on their website. Mr. Mayor, maybe you could talk to that department about this issue?
18 hours ago · Like

Jeff Wright Thanks Mike, I didn't realize that
17 hours ago · Like


Tom Bowen Clearly this mayor is pro development of the mountain. I was part of a Town Council that found $2.7 million to preserve Eddy Farm. Some on the Council say we cannot afford to put money into conservation projects while they contemplate putting $1 million on top of $500,000 from the state for a turf field which will be primarily used for midget football. As a Town we must determine what our real priorities are.

Wednesday at 9:02pm · Like · 


Bernadette Conway It is truly disappointing that Toll Bros. has come calling again with a new plan of development for Cedar Mountain. This plan needs to be looked at carefully and go through the proper process. Mayor Wright states that it is a "win-win" situation for conservation? Any kind of development on a beautiful natural resource such as our mountain cannot be referred to as a win for conservation.

Wednesday at 7:51pm · Like · 


Gayle Raducha For item D. - shouldn't that read "TOLL BROS. open space development discussion" since that's what happened??

Wednesday at 7:51pm · Like · 


Gayle Raducha For item D. - shouldn't that read "TOLL BROS. open space development discussion" since that's what happened??

Wednesday at 7:51pm · Like · 


Jeff Zelek Here is agenda from last night’s TC meeting taken from the towns website.
For anyone not at the meeting, Toll Brothers presentation is item D. 

CONSIDERATION OF NEW BUSINESS (Action May Be Taken Only by Waiving the Rules.) 
A. Open Space Committee 2010 Annual Report to the Council 
B. Approve Architect: Board of Education School Roof Replacement Project (Action
Requested) 
C. Consideration of Compensation Adjustment for Town Manager (Waive Rules if Action Taken) 
D. Open Space/Development Discussion

Wednesday at 6:44pm · Like · 

Gayle Raducha 

No matter how anyone tries to spin it, Toll Bros. name was intentionally omitted from the agenda, to avoid an outcry. The agenda was not made public until the Friday before the meeting. And since Toll Bros. was personally invited to attend the TP meeting and give a presentation, it certainly can't be said it was a last minute decision. They've been doing all the pre-work quietly and under the radar, so as to not let the public know what their plans are. Over the summer Toll Bros. conducted numerous studies regarding traffic flow and brought in a backhoe and bull dozer to conduct tests all over the mountain. My opinion is that they are trying to get to a point in the project where it will be impossible to stop them.
Thursday at 6:07am · Like


Kelly Mowchan I have created a new Facebook page so that we can have our own custom URL address, making it easier to access information. Please follow the link provided and "like" the Save Cedar Mountain page. I will continue to update both pages, however I hope to eventually shut down the site we are currently using once members have transitioned over, etc. 
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Cedar-Mountain/135720249826557

Save Cedar Mountain
To protect Cedar Mountain from building of any kind and have the area deemed "open space".
Page:200 people like this.

Wednesday at 3:37pm · Like ·  · Share

Kelly Mowchan 
Right now it looks like I will be keeping both pages active. I cannot send out messages to all the members with the new page, rather information posted will appear in each person's "live-feed" on the homepage of their Facebook account. This site will be used as well and I can send out messages to all group members as urgent information arises. By using both sites, I will be able to consolidate the messages and get more information out more often. This will prevent a buildup of messages (which some members have complained about, etc).
Wednesday at 4:28pm · Like

Gayle Raducha I've done my research, and have the facts. My understanding is that the 48 acres being offered is zoned as wetlands and therefore cannot be built on. This seems to be an empty gesture to appease the people that want to keep the mountain natural. I feel omission of information is the same as not telling the whole truth. It’s disheartening when elected officials misrepresent information. I'm the Wethersfield spokesperson working to Save Cedar Mt. I feel it’s important that residents are aware of any meeting held regarding the MT. I am very much impacted by any decision made by the Newington TC, as I live directly opposite the woods. Though the property is in Newington, the blasting that will be done will cause irreparable damage to surrounding neighborhoods – in Wethersfield and Newington. I feel I am justified in voicing my concern, and trying to stop this development. We're not asking for the town to purchase the land. We're trying to keep this land as natural as possible.

Wednesday at 3:05pm · Like · 


Jeff Wright Gayle- please don't let the facts get in the way of your crusade. Personally, I am offended a non-Newington resident (you live Wethersfield) is leading the charge on the future of Newington and trying to write checks with the Newington taxpayers' checkbook. Why don't you approach the Wethersfield council to purchase the land?

Wednesday at 1:30pm · Like · 


Lucy Fleming At least she is leading the charge for the future of Cedar Mountain. That's more than what you are doing. Why is it that other towns are making every effort and have succeeded in purchasing open space? Because they have town officials that recognize the importance of saving what little open space that is remaining!
Wednesday at 7:15pm · Like

Ettore Namias Look Jeff, these posts you were making to a social website is inappropriate use of my tax dollars especially during the workday. These posts were you were 'offended' really strike a chord with me. I sincerely hope you have advisers who will caution you about what you’re doing. Because what I see are gross misuses of your time, and town of newington tax dollars.
Wednesday at 10:38pm · Like

John Vallera 
Let's all forget Politics here. Construction and development of new housing has not enriched the lives of any community. It looks good on paper (?) then hidden costs climb. I offered the suggestion to contact corporate donors to purchas...See More
Thursday at 9:27am · Like

Jeff Wright Hey Ettore- nice try, but I am a volunteer Mayor and I do not accept any tax payers money.
22 hours ago · Like


Jeff Wright Toll Brothers is proposing one of the largest land donations in Newington history, 48+ acres of the total 101 acres, while protecting the ridge line and creating public hiking trails, all at no cost to the taxpayer. This is a win-win situation for conservation, the taxpayer, job creation and economic development.

Wednesday at 10:30am · Like · 

Lisa Rock Namias Mr. Wright, you let the Town Council ask Questions after Toll Brothers was done with their presentation but did not let the public ask anything, that still gets me.
Wednesday at 7:00pm · Like

Jeff Wright Lisa- I followed the exact same council rules. The public has the opportunity to speak to the council St the beginning and end of every meeting.
21 hours ago · Like


Joe Gaudiano a very touchy subject . . .a question to those people who are in favor of building and also to those people who are on the fence, TOLL BRO'S, MR. WRIGHT, TOWN PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, THE DECISION MAKERS, etc. . . ??DO YOU PEOPLE PLAN ON BEING A NEWINGTON OR WETHERSFIELD RESIDENT IN 20 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE?? OR ARE YOU GOING TO MOVE AWAY AND FORGET ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR MOUNTAIN??

Wednesday at 9:25am · Like · 

Jeff Wright Joe- I disagree. It is not pro or anti building, it is about the U.S. Constitution, including property rights.
Wednesday at 10:19am · Like


Kelly Mowchan It's also about what the citizens of the town want and what is in the best interest for the community.
Wednesday at 2:22pm · Like ·  1 person


Joe Gaudiano mr. wright, that's fine that you disagree . . i'm aware of the constitution and property rights . . .i'm also aware of campaign contributions and pension padding . . .no accusations from me, of course, . . .but the question still goes unanswered, "will you be a newington resident in 20 years?. . .
Thursday at 7:14am · Like

Jeff Wright ok folks, let's not start twisting the facts. This agenda item was on the agenda since the agenda meeting a week prior, therefore "I did not sneak on the agenda". Also, Tolls Brothers are not trying to slip under the radar, last night's presentation was prior to the applications, so more information could get out not less. This level of information is above and beyond the normal process

Wednesday at 8:49am · Like · 

Gayle Raducha According to a town council member, Mayor Wright invited Toll Bros. to last nights TC meeting. Shouldn't Toll Bros. be petitioning the TC, and fighting their own fight?
Wednesday at 3:07pm · Like


Bernadette Conway Why not list it on the agenda as: Toll Bros. Cedar Mountain Development Presentation instead of open space/development discussion? Now that would have been clear.
Wednesday at 7:55pm · Like


Ettore Namias I've noticed that more often than not, documents from the town are written as opaque as possible and still meet whatever twisted sense of public notification these politicians seem to follow.
Wednesday at 10:32pm · Like
Ettore Namias Jeff should count himself lucky to have a job, because by his character and integrity that I've seen thus far, he wouldn't make it in the public sector.
Wednesday at 10:33pm · Like

Jeff Wright Ettore- the only time I have earned a dollar from the government is when I served as a United States Marine, so please correct your statements. If you prefer to try and smear my honor or service, please call me 519-8177 and we can talk like men, instead of your name calling. How have you served your community or country?
22 hours ago · Like


Ettore Namias 
Ok, I heard you asked me to call you from this group. But took a while to find out from where. Anyway, just let me know when it would be a good time to call and I shall. Would be good to chat.
As far questions regarding service. I don't serve. I've worked in gainful employment since the age 16. I pay taxes, and I vote. That's about it. And I feel that's enough. Considering so many people do neither.
15 hours ago · Like

Jeff Wright Ettore- do you live in Newington?
14 hours ago · Like


Ettore Namias Ok Mayor. I do live here. Have for 41 years. Own 2 homes here. You've somewhat opened a can of worms that maybe your regretting now in retrospect. Like I said earlier, if you let me know date/time I'd be happy to call you.
12 hours ago · Like


Chris DuBois Why does every piece of beautiful land have to end up as a site plan??

February 22 at 10:43pm · Like · 


Tony Testa Can you please send out an announcement when the next town meeting is this topic comes up again? When is the next town meeting?

Jeff Zelek 
Tony, you can sign up for notifications of town meetings on the Town of Newington website. They send an email for each public meeting with a link to the agenda. Oddly, Toll Brothers \ Cedar Mountain was not listed on the agenda for the tow...See More
Wednesday at 6:34am · Like

Jeff Wright Gayle- I am not working with 'one side' or the other, rather I am working for solutions for all Newington citizens and land owners.
Wednesday at 8:56am · Like


Danny Quattromani no you’re not because if you were working for newington citizens then you would plainly see from the comments on this site how we feel and stop entertaining toll bros. and everyone else that wants to build on the mountain
Wednesday at 9:54am · Like ·  1 person


Tony Testa Jeff- If the citizens of Newington took a vote to see if those who live here want this to proceed, would you allow that vote to take place and then follow whatever the outcome? Whose voices are more important? Those of the people who elected you or a couple of people who want to develop the land for a profit?

Wednesday at 9:57am · Like


Gayle Raducha VERY WELL SAID!!!!
Wednesday at 10:12am · Like


Danny Quattromani i agree gayle if they were'nt on the agenda and then all of a sudden they were what does that tell the residents i know if it were me i would be told to wait till the next meeting
Wednesday at 10:18am · Like
Danny Quattromani very true i grew up on that mountain and i still live at the base of it i remember when balf would blast our house would shake and they are at the other end there is no other way but to blast and now its basically going to happen in my back yard are they going to pay for damages to residents house's.. i think not
Wednesday at 10:36am · Like


Kelly Mowchan FOR THOSE OF YOU TRYING TO UPLOAD IMAGES:
Do so by posting above in the "share" box. Click "Photo" and follow the options provided. This will post the image to the group wall. I disabled the ability to upload images to the Save Cedar Mountain album because images were being uploaded that had nothing to do with the site. Thanks everyone!

February 22 at 9:52pm · Like · 


Kelly Mowchan



Save Cedar Mountain! Photos
February 22 at 9:40pm

Jeff Zelek
 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=195164070507869&set=a.102092889814988.4750.100000428314057&ref=nf

Wall Photos
Tool Brothers presenting new Cedar Mountain development plan at this evenings town council meeting.
By:Jeff Zelek

February 22 at 8:32pm · Like ·  · Share

Raymond C Harlow Thanks for the picture.
February 22 at 8:48pm · Like


Maureen Hogan Klett Jeff, I am in Florida, so I missed the meeting. I was called and informed by a Town Council member that Marcap was coming in then heard Toll Brothers was invited by the Mayor. I'm not sure why they came to make a presentation to the Town Council, but was told it was about land donation, however, it would be the TP&Z who would have to approve a project and it seems an odd thing to do.
February 22 at 8:49pm · Like
Jeff Zelek TM commented that coming before the council was "unorthodox".
February 22 at 8:58pm · Like

Raymond C Harlow It was quite a presentation. It was right after the "Open Space Committee" presentation. The Land donation they said they would give was Ridgeline and Wetlands areas that are already protected.....so I'm a little confused......
February 22 at 9:09pm · Like

<Maureen Klett>
Maureen Hogan Klett I actually made a request of the person who called me that they have the Open Space Commitee's presentation follow what I thought was Marcaps so that the Open Space Committee could comment on what they would hear. But I was subsequently told that someone and I don't know who on the Open Space Commttee didn't want to follow Marcap, or I guess was Toll Brothers, not sure why that would be objectionable.
February 22 at 9:13pm · Like

Maureen Hogan Klett Jeff, I am planning on listening to the tape when I return.
February 22 at 9:15pm · Like


Kelly Mowchan I just send out an email with these pictures included.
February 22 at 9:38pm · Like
Maureen Hogan Klett Ray, Interesting, did anyone bring this up?
February 22 at 11:03pm · Like

Raymond C Harlow Not that I heard.....I had to leave ....
February 22 at 11:32pm · Like


Ettore Namias Kelly Mowchan, I have the Toll Bros presentation taken at the Town Hall meeting tonight. Its a long video but it should be posted for people to watch if interested.

February 22 at 8:09pm · Like · 


Kelly Mowchan That sounds like a good idea to me. I do not think I can upload videos directly on here but if you can upload it to You tube you can post the link directly on here or I can send a message out to the group regarding it.
February 22 at 9:22pm · Like


Ettore Namias Ok, uploading my first you tube video now. Will let you know when complete.
February 22 at 9:43pm · Like


Kelly Mowchan ok sounds good. post the link directly on the page and ill send out an email with it as well.
February 22 at 9:43pm · Like


Ettore Namias The video is 30 mins and you tube puked on that length. I don't have time right now to edit it down. May try again tomorrow night.
February 22 at 10:20pm · Like


Kelly Mowchan Haha ok.
February 22 at 11:19pm · Like

Jeff Wright The entire meeting is available at NCTV.org and I would imagine the council meeting will be uploaded in the next day or so
Wednesday at 8:52am · Like

Gayle Raducha Kelly - great job getting the info out!! We all greatly appreciate your work on this. If anyone can upload the video sooner than "the next day or so" per Wright, please post the link.
Wednesday at 10:15am · Like


Gayle Raducha I just want to set the record straight - I never told the reporter that I was the "founding member" of the Save Cedar Mt. group. But at least both the Newington Crier and the Wethersfield Post ran the article about developing the mountain...

February 11 at 8:27am · Like · 

Rick Spring Everyone PLEASE pay attention to the TPZ/Town Council meetings. There is going to be an application for development submitted soon for Cedar Mountain. 
Please note that this info is hearsay BUT from a credible source of information.

January 27 at 2:22pm · Like · 


Gayle Raducha I went out to the TPZ meetings - didn't see anything yet. Do you know when they're planning on submitting? We'll need to get a message out to all the members of this site when there's a specific date. We can't let this die out.
February 11 at 8:39am · Like


Rick Spring Gayle, I get email alerts for every town meeting with a link to the agenda. I always make it a point to read the agenda and if I see something regarding Cedar Mountain I will post it here. Meanwhile I just continue to lurk.
February 11 at 9:17am · Like


Gayle Raducha PLEASE continue to lurk!! I think they're definitely going to try and slip this in under the radar....
February 11 at 9:26am · Like


Raymond C Harlow Interesting Article in today's Newington Town Crier

January 21 at 6:26pm · Like · 

Doug Harlow can you post it here?
January 21 at 7:19pm · Like


Raymond C Harlow I don't think so......
January 21 at 9:00pm · Like


Rick Spring Doug see if this works: http://www.newingtontowncrier.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=20454636&BRD=1647&PAG=461&dept_id=11410&rfi=8
January 24 at 5:25pm · Like


Doug Harlow Thanks, Rick
January 24 at 7:53pm · Like


Gayle Raducha The same article appeared in the Wethersfield Post, so hopefully people are paying attention.. But I do want to make a correction - I never said I was the founding member of the committee. I said I was the Wethersfield contact.
February 12 at 7:20am · Like


Jean Corsi Greenough We live in Wethersfield but have spent many, many hours in those woods. Our kids grew up hiking sledding, skating and x-country skiing there. 3 dogs have grown old running through the trails. It's a very important place to our family. Is there anything we can do to save it even though we don't live in Newington??

January 18 at 10:09am · Like · 


Jean Corsi Greenough Agreed!
January 18 at 1:29pm · Like


Gayle Raducha Watch the Newington TPZ meeting schedule.
February 11 at 8:24am · Like


Gayle Raducha I woke up this morning to 4 deer walking through the woods behind my house. There's a path they've made that comes from Cedar Mt. Where will they go after the mountain is leveled???? The Berlin Tpke.?? We CANNOT let them destroy the wildlife and the mountain. It would be one of the biggest travesties this area has seen. PLEASE take an active stand to stop this from happening.

January 1 at 9:34am · Like · 


Doug Harlow New thread: While you all have Mayor Wright's attention, ask him and perhaps a couple of the town councilors what the Balf Town Committee is and when it last met. Balf. That rings a bell. I see on the Newington web site that there are two committee members representing the council and one Balf rep. Is this a two-hour tour gone castaway to Mr. Gilligan's Island?

December 30, 2010 at 7:09pm · Like · 

Gayle Raducha The politics started getting rough, 
The tiny cause was tossed, 
If not for the courage of the fearless crew 
The mountain would be lost, the mountain would be lost.
December 30, 2010 at 7:15pm · Like ·  2 people


Doug Harlow clever
December 30, 2010 at 7:21pm · Like


Bernadette Conway 
Hi Doug, I was just appointed to the Balf Town Committee this past fall and we met in October. Yes, Mr. Gilligan was the representative from Balf (although they are no longer Balf). The meeting took place before all of the activity started. I asked many questions as to what their plans were for the mountain and Mr. Gilligan tried to be helpful but seems to be out of the loop. Balf is now owned by Newcastle Enterprises out of Ireland. He didn't have any information as to what their plans are and if he did he did a great job of not showing his hand. They are a big corporation who cares about their bottom line. I will continue to try to get more specific information from them.
December 30, 2010 at 8:29pm · Like ·  3 people

Doug Harlow 
Yay for Bernadette!
Now, what about this Open Space Committee ... is there any open space left in Newington? Or is Cedar Mountain the last open space. I see members of the town council on the committee, along with members of the Town Planning and Zoning Committee. Anybody?
December 30, 2010 at 8:34pm · Like


Gayle Raducha You rock Doug!! You're asking the questions that need to be answered. I think Bernadette is also on the Open Space Com.
December 31, 2010 at 5:50am · Like ·  1 person


Bernadette Conway 

Yes, I am also on the Open Space Committee. Our top priority is Cedar Mountain because that is the largest parcel of open space left in town. There are other patches throughout town but Cedar Mountain is the last sizable parcel. 

Because it is privately owned what we can do is limited. The economy has not helped our cause and because of it's size it would of course be very expensive to try to acquire even if we did have the resources. 

I am speaking as a resident in this forum, not on behalf of any town committee, but I believe our most effective strategy is to attend TPZ meetings to find out what their plans are. At this point they have not submitted any applications for permits but probably will soon.
December 31, 2010 at 7:19pm · Like


Tom Bowen It will be difficult and possibly expensive to save the Mountain but it is worth the effort.
This will be an open topic at the next Open Space Comm mtg.
Please come and share ideas.
January 4 at 11:34am · Like ·  1 person


Doug Harlow Call a reporter at the Courant - mayors and developers HATE bad press.
January 5 at 8:01pm · Like


Doug Harlow I don't want to be a downer, but if heavy equipment already is on site ... well. Development takes months of permitting. Is there no Planning Board in Newington? Was nobody watching or checking on site plan reviews? Taking pictures now will not accomplish anything. It seems long past time to make phone calls and go to meetings.

December 30, 2010 at 11:51am · Like · 

Gayle Raducha 
That's not true - the equipment was there for a week to do testing. They have not yet begun construction. But they are ramping up for the spring - we need to stop them before they get town approval to begin construction. They will need ...See More
December 30, 2010 at 11:59am · Like
Gayle Raducha I've been up there almost every day, and have talked to anyone that's been doing any work. Because of the rocks, extensive blasting will need to be done. Also, roads from Mountain Rd. and Brentwood on the Newington side and Russell Rd. from the Wethersfield side will need to be built.
December 30, 2010 at 12:26pm · Like

Doug Harlow I hope you are right, Gayle, but timber harvesting in advance of construction is not a good sign. Someone needs to physically examine permit applications and planning board minutes. A petition for a moratorium on construction at the site and for land use regulations specific to Cedar Mountain is a good idea. I would contact a reporter at the Courant

December 30, 2010 at 12:31pm · Like ·  1 person


Jeff Wright FYI- this property is exclusively in Newington, so if applications come in, it will not include any Wethersfield over site. Any applications will need to come to TPZ and conservation committees, but remember this section is already zoned R20, so the property owner has the right to build homes on nearly half acre lots.
December 30, 2010 at 2:50pm · Like


Raymond C Harlow Doug- see my comments below
December 30, 2010 at 2:58pm · Like


Doug Harlow What you say may be true, Mr. Wright, but the developer must comply with all building and zoning ordinances set by the town and by the state, with a certified engineering plan on file at the town office. My suggestion is that the people from Save Cedar Mountain examine all documents pertaining to the site plan
December 30, 2010 at 5:11pm · Like
Doug Harlow Please clarify what R20 zoning is and how it might pertain to wetlands designation
December 30, 2010 at 6:46pm · Like


Raymond C Harlow It is Zone residential but any activity MUST comply with State Statues
December 30, 2010 at 6:48pm · Like
Doug Harlow does residential include strip malls?
December 30, 2010 at 6:49pm · Like
Raymond C Harlow No, That is zoned Commercial
December 30, 2010 at 6:50pm · Like

Gayle Raducha 
Since it seems the mayor has joined our conversation, maybe he can answer all our questions - or is he standing by the town platform that "nothing is happening on the mountain"??? The land may be in Newington, but since they will be putting...See More
December 30, 2010 at 7:09pm · Like ·  2 people


Maureen Hogan Klett 
Gayle, As you are aware, I have brought this up more than once recently at TC meetings and asked the Town Manager to explain to the public. I also asked him to send a staff member up there to monitor what is going on. The Mayor warned the p...See More

December 30, 2010 at 10:51pm · Like ·  1 person


Gayle Raducha Why is the mayor warning people on "behalf" of the property owners? Is that part of his job - monitoring private property trespassers and threatening arrest to anyone that doesn't comply? This is a perfect example of where the mayor stands on this issue - on the side of big money and bottom liners. Shouldn't he be protecting his town residents????
December 31, 2010 at 5:57am · Like ·  1 person

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Maureen Hogan Klett I believe he was asked to, but you will have to pose that question to him. But you are aware that I have asked on numerous times for the TM to report what is going on and after you contacted me the first time, asked that town officials monitor and report what was happening. I will do so again.
December 31, 2010 at 8:13am · Like


Denise F. Talbot I'm a Newington resident at heart but no longer live there. What about contacting the media?

December 30, 2010 at 7:03am · Like · 


Brian Skibo let me know what i need to do in this fight!!! call me if something is going on,meeetings and so on             860-604-9921      . I liked the person who put up the neon signs going up the hill.... but some @#$% took them down):..................BRIAN.S

December 9, 2010 at 9:22pm · Like · 


Gayle Raducha THE BULLDOZERS HAVE ARRIVED ON CEDAR MOUNTAIN!!! At almost every entry way to the mountain, on both the Wethersfield and Newington side, you will see tracks from the heavy machinery that is being brought into the woods. I witnessed the bulldozers and backhoes in action this morning. Unless we find a way to stop them o...
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December 5, 2010 at 7:04am · Like · 


Chris DuBois We need to tell these companies to look at the empty plaza just down the road from Cedar Mountain before destroying nature and a landmark. Backwards thinking!!
December 30, 2010 at 9:38am · Like


Gayle Raducha I agree. build in areas of town that are abandoned or already built out.
December 30, 2010 at 12:11pm · Like
Nicholas Zannetos The town should be looking into filling vacant buildings before allowing open spaces to be developed. The plaza in the center is vacant, and not in good repair. It could be developed, or rather, redeveloped at a great price... it's only down the hill. If you put something viable in that space it would be of a great benefit to the town. It sure is more practical than destroying a hilltop for developments that are not really needed.
January 1 at 6:00pm · Like

Bernadette Conway Gayle is right - something is definitely going on on the mountain. I just came back from a hike and there are MANY trees marked and track marks from heavy equipment. Time to start making phone calls and going to meetings to find out what is going on.

December 4, 2010 at 2:57pm · Like · 
Bernadette Conway Gayle is right - something is definitely going on on the mountain. I just came back from a hike and there are MANY trees marked and track marks from heavy equipment. Time to start making phone calls and going to meetings to find out what is going on.

December 4, 2010 at 2:57pm · Like · 

Raymond C Harlow Can we get some pictures posted here of this activity?
December 30, 2010 at 7:17am · Like


Bernadette Conway Hopefully I'll get up there this weekend and take some.
December 30, 2010 at 7:58am · Like


Doug Harlow I don't want to be a downer, but if heavy equipment already is on site ... well. Development takes months of permitting. Is there no Planning Board in Newington? Was nobody watching or checking on site plan reviews? Taking pictures now will not accomplish anything. It seems long past time to make phone calls and go to meetings.
December 30, 2010 at 11:50am · Like

Gayle Raducha 
That's not true - the equipment was there for a week to do testing. They have not yet begun construction. But they are ramping up for the spring - we need to stop them before they get town approval to begin construction. They will need ...t...See More
December 30, 2010 at 12:08pm · Like
Gayle Raducha I will get pics as well
December 30, 2010 at 12:12pm · Like


Raymond C Harlow 
Brother Doug, private land owners in this State have rights to do certain things on their own land, but are restricted by the Town Planning and Zoning board on development. They have further State EPA restrictions when it evolves wetlands. ...See More
December 30, 2010 at 2:34pm · Like


Gayle Raducha 

I was not aware of that. They were definitely in the wetlands areas - prior to the snow, the tracks from the bulldozer and backhoe led right up to and into the wetlands areas. I am working with a neighbor that is active in the Hartford c...See More
December 30, 2010 at 5:47pm · Like


Doug Harlow Private land or not, Raymond, the developer must comply with all building and zoning ordinances set by the town and by the state, with a certified engineering plan on file at the town office. My suggestion is that the people from Save Cedar Mountain examine all documents pertaining to the site plan. The fact that land clearing already is under way tells me some permits have been approved already. Wetlands will be a great stopper. Backhoe and bulldozer mean it might be too late.
December 30, 2010 at 5:58pm · Like ·  1 person


Raymond C Harlow Gayle, the wetlands have been mapped out. I am a State Certified Inland Wetlands Commissioner and have a duty to the State EPA . If Wetlands are being disturbed or, even a 100 foot Upland Review area next to it, That is a problem. There are maps available at the Town clerk’s office. I will follow up on this.
December 30, 2010 at 6:08pm · Like


Doug Harlow Good work, Harlow.
December 30, 2010 at 6:10pm · Like ·  1 person
Doug Harlow How about a "Do Not Disturb" sign at entrances? Then call the newspaper for a dramatic photo and story.
December 30, 2010 at 6:13pm · Like


Raymond C Harlow Any complaints of a violation of State Wetlands Statues can also be filed with the State EPA by any citizen.
December 30, 2010 at 6:21pm · Like


Doug Harlow ‎... but don't wait for the next guy to do it
December 30, 2010 at 6:44pm · Like


Gayle Raducha The daily work by surveyors and contractors continues on Cedar Mountain. The footpaths have been widened, and trees are being cleared. Because I am not a resident of Newington, there is nothing more I can do than to let you know what is going on, and hope that the residents rally again to stop the development of the mountain and the ridge from proceeding. Unfortunately, one day very soon, you will look up at the ridge, and the only view you will have will be that of condominium complexes.

December 3, 2010 at 12:30pm · Like · 

 

John Vallera In an effort to convey both, my deep passion for nature, and the psychologically important role that exploring unaltered tracts of land plays on maintaining our wellbeing, I put together these images contained in this slide show. A Nature Journey parallels that of our own journey through life.... We may also feel a deep connection with our past; as our ancestors surely walked this land.

Cedar Mountain in Fall
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Photos by john v, Nov 7, 2010

November 19, 2010 at 10:10pm · Like ·  · Share

Lisa Rock Namias John, these are excellent photos, thank you for posting.
November 21, 2010 at 9:47pm · Like


Iris Larsson Beautiful pictures.. need to stay that way.
November 22, 2010 at 9:20pm · Like


Bernadette Conway Your pictures are absolutely gorgeous - the colors are breathtaking!
December 2, 2010 at 6:28pm · Like


Gayle Raducha The daily work by surveyors and contractors continues on Cedar Mountain. The footpaths have been widened, and trees are being cleared. Because I am not a resident of Newington, there is nothing more I can do than to let you know what is going on, and hope that the residents rally again to stop the development of the mountain and the ridge from proceeding. Unfortunately, one day very soon, you will look up at the ridge, and the only view you will have will be that of condominium complexes.
December 3, 2010 at 12:31pm · Like


Doug Harlow Gayle, public records are available for everyone to see. Find out exactly what's going on.
December 30, 2010 at 12:37pm · Like


Gayle Raducha 
I have tried, but the Newington officials that I and other residents have contacted continually say that there is nothing going on. I talked to a fellow hiker a while back, and he said that he ran into a town official, and was told that " it's probably kids marking the trees". The hiker then asked if "these same kids were operating the bulldozer and back hoe". At which point, the conversation ended. My take is that Newington Town Council is all for this - more tax dollars. The preliminary work that's been done would not have taken place if Toll Bros. wasn't certain that their proposal would go through. Which is why we need to rally now. Once this is approved, there's nothing we can do about it....
December 30, 2010 at 5:56pm · Like


Gayle Raducha There has been a tremendous amount of activity on the mountain this week. Contractors and Surveyors are again marking trees and boundaries all over the mountain. Don't know if they were waiting for things to quiet down, but it looks like they are working very quickly.

November 18, 2010 at 11:07am · Like · 

Ettore Namias then would expect some notification @ the town hall soon. Last time this happened the contractor just left very quickly from the hearing.
November 20, 2010 at 5:32pm · Like


Gayle Raducha And my understanding is that it was because there was such a strong showing, and public outcry. We need to keep this going. The best scenario would be to have this whole mountain declared as open space, which would end this fight once and for all.
December 30, 2010 at 6:12pm · Like
Gayle Raducha Though I think we had a better shot at that when the mountain was owned by Balf - a little "community give back"....Who knows now with the current owners.
December 30, 2010 at 6:13pm · Like


Sarah Mocko St Germain Are there folks running for office who are fighting for this cause?

October 20, 2010 at 8:23pm · Like · 


Gayle Raducha The daily work by surveyors and contractors continues on Cedar Mountain. The footpaths have been widened, and trees are being cleared. Because I am not a resident of Newington, there is nothing more I can do than to let you know what is going on, and hope that the residents rally again to stop the development of the mountain and the ridge from proceeding. Unfortunately, one day very soon, you will look up at the ridge, and the only view you will have will be that of condominium complexes.
December 3, 2010 at 12:31pm · Like


Jeff Zelek Last chance to say farewell to the meadow at the end of Welles Drive North. The fences are up, the construction trailer is in place, and the equipment is arriving to start the development. :<

October 15, 2010 at 5:12pm · Like · 

Brian Groves Jeff, thanks for pointing this out. The last time I was home, in August, I walked from Willard Ave down to the meadow and was surprised to see how the path on the edge of St. Mary's property had grown in. I wasn't aware that the whole thing was going to be obliterated, and thought it was part of the Open Spaces Act, but I guess I was wrong. So, I'm happy I was able to take one last walk through there... Too much changing in the old town.
October 27, 2010 at 8:51pm · Like


Lucy Fleming Do we have any idea how much has been collected for the Newington Open Trust Fund, Inc and has it been advertised at all besides this website? It would be good to get it in the Town Crier and the Hartford Courant. The Courant would reach out to those out of town folks who also enjoy the mountain.

October 8, 2010 at 8:52am · Like · 

Gayle Raducha I'd be happy to talk to my contacts at the local news stations and papers. However, I'm not aware of the Trust Fund. Can someone tell me where I can find more info on it?
October 10, 2010 at 4:06pm · Like
Gayle Raducha There has been a tremendous amount of activity on the mountain this week. Contractors and Surveyors are again marking trees and boundaries all over the mountain. Don't know if they were waiting for things to quiet down, but it looks like they are working very quickly.
November 18, 2010 at 11:13am · Like


Stanley Marcinczyk Let's keep the momentum going to Save Cedar Mountain from over development.

October 4, 2010 at 8:17pm · Like · 

Gayle Raducha There has been a tremendous amount of activity on the mountain this week. Contractors and Surveyors are again marking trees and boundaries all over the mountain. Don't know if they were waiting for things to quiet down, but it looks like they are working very quickly.
November 18, 2010 at 11:07am · Like


Raymond C Harlow The beautiful fall color starting on Cedar Mountain reminds us of why we want to continue to see it saved so the whole town can enjoy the last great New England Foliage in Newington

October 4, 2010 at 12:50pm · Like · 

Joe Gaudiano what do you mean by, "last great new england foliage in newington"? . ..
October 6, 2010 at 10:15am · Like

Raymond C Harlow I mean all in one big area
October 6, 2010 at 2:25pm · Like


Kelly Mowchan Added on 8/23/10

Save Cedar Mountain! Photos

August 23, 2010 at 7:54pm · Like ·  · Share

Bernadette Conway Thank you Kelly for posting information about the Newington Open Space Trust, Inc. We are trying to get the word out about different ways of saving all open space, but of course especially Cedar Mountain.
August 28, 2010 at 9:23am · Like


Raymond C Harlow Conservation!
August 31, 2010 at 4:50pm · Like

Jeff Zelek This flyer should get put in the Town Crier. I haven't checked the Save Cedar Mountain page in quite a while. Glad I did because this is the first I heard the trust was established. Great work and kudos to those responsible.
October 5, 2010 at 7:20am · Like ·  1 person


Gayle Raducha The daily work by surveyors and contractors continues on Cedar Mountain. The footpaths have been widened, and trees are being cleared. Because I am not a resident of Newington, there is nothing more I can do than to let you know what is going on, and hope that the residents rally again to stop the development of the mountain and the ridge from proceeding. Unfortunately, one day very soon, you will look up at the ridge, and the only view you will have will be that of condominium complexes.
December 3, 2010 at 12:32pm · Like


Gayle Raducha I may have found us a sure way to keep the mountain natural.!! This morning, I spotted an Eagle - yes, an actual mature bald headed eagle. Over the past month or so, Eagles are being seen in areas they have never been before. I'm trying to find its nest. If I can find it, they will not be able to do any type of clearing or construction anywhere on the Mountain. But I need help looking - there's a lot of ground to cover. It would look like a regular birds nest, only much, much larger. My neighbor does a lot of bird watching up there, so I'm going to enlist her in the search. So anyone going into the woods - please keep looking UP!!!

August 19, 2010 at 9:13am · Like · 


Joe Gaudiano i'm up the mountain a lot and all i ever see are hawks . . . i'd love to find the nest . . .where about did you see the eagle? . . . i'll look until i find it if it's living there . . .
October 6, 2010 at 10:13am · Like


Mimi Vigo I've been in Newington Ct. for 12yrs and two yrs ago after a knee replacement I hiked Cedar Mountain with pain and it took me 3 1/2 hrs for a sm mountain to hike. When I got to the top I then realize how beautiful Newington Ct really ment to us (TREASHURABLE)....Today Aug 8, 2010 will go again on a pleasurable long wal...
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August 8, 2010 at 10:41am · Like · 


Kelly Mowchan I sent out a message on 7/19/10 with this information, however there seems to still be some confusion. 

While I do appreciate the messages and emails with tips and information regarding the mountain, it is unrealistic for me to send out messages for each piece of information I receive considering most of the information is speculation. While I am doing my best to get everyone the most important information as quickly as I receive it, I am still busy with other things. I am only one person trying to keep everyone as updated as possible. I encourage everyone who has something to share to post it to the "Save Cedar Mountain" Facebook wall rather than sending me messages with the information. This way, your information will be posted as quickly as possible and I do not have to weed through the messages for the most pertinent information and we save everyone from panicking over false information, etc.

July 22, 2010 at 4:37pm · Like · 


Gayle Raducha It seems that if we are able to keep this issue in front of the public, we can keep them from developing the mountain. Most companies don't want to bother or be involved in a land battle where the residents stay strong in trying to stop it, and the media keeps reporting on it.

July 22, 2010 at 10:13am · Like · 


Ettore Namias What!? Here @ the meeting. I believe the applicant just withdrew their application for the forest work on the mountain.

July 20, 2010 at 7:06pm · Like · 

 

Gayle Raducha I'm sorry I wasn't able to make the meeting. What was discussed??
July 21, 2010 at 2:04pm · Like


Raymond C Harlow The Applicant withdrew 2010-04.....no reason given, just withdrawn
July 21, 2010 at 2:50pm · Like
Gayle Raducha There has been a tremendous amount of activity on the mountain this week. Contractors and Surveyors are again marking trees and boundaries all over the mountain. Don't know if they were waiting for things to quiet down, but it looks like they are working very quickly.
November 18, 2010 at 11:15am · Like


Gayle Raducha http://www.courant.com/community/wethersfield/hc-wethersfield-cedarcrest-0714-20100713-1,0,3522436.story
http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=d74f38927ea72ce9437383e28fe7d9c4&w=90&h=90&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.courant.com%2Fmedia%2Fthumbnails%2Fphotogallery%2F2010-06%2F54614778-27165236.jpg
Future Development: Residents Worried - Courant.com
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Now that a state-owned psychiatric facility has been closed and developers have expressed interest in building on Cedar Mountain, residents of Newington and Wethersfield worry about what might lie ahead for the two properties.

July 19, 2010 at 9:28am · Like ·  · Share

Gayle Raducha I sent a message to Kelly Mowchan, asking her to send out a note to all of the Cedar Mt. members regarding the meeting. Haven't seen anything from her as of yet....
July 20, 2010 at 5:27am · Like

Kelly Mowchan Again, I sent out a notice to everyone about this. I am only one person trying to keep people as updated as possible. If you have something to post, post it here. I have been receiving complaints from some of the members that there have been too many emails being sent out.
July 22, 2010 at 4:26pm · Like

Kelly Doering Bartlett This is something that should not be allowed to happen! I hope that they are stopped. I have alot of happy memories from there :) - Enough of Newington has been changed

July 11, 2010 at 12:02pm · Like · 


Raymond C Harlow Application 2010-04 involves a proposed timber Havest request on a parcel of land (54 acres) located on the Top of Cedar Mountain Ridge. This Parcel of land is owned by Tilcon and is located northerly of the connecticut Humane Society. the contractor who will be performing this harvest has already identified in the fie...
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July 10, 2010 at 7:01pm · Like · 

Lucy Fleming Why does the Harvesting need to be done? I personally think something is going on here. Why is there a sudden interest in clearing the trees?
July 11, 2010 at 8:17pm · Like


Mark Pappa This is standard forestry management for the health and regeneration of the forest. It's attributed to responsible land ownership. In the event the land were to be cleared, they would not be doing this. It's for the long term health and viability of the forest.
July 11, 2010 at 9:13pm · Like


Raymond C Harlow Great! if it’s for the long term, there can be a condition that they never build there!
July 11, 2010 at 10:51pm · Like


Mark Pappa Ray, never say never but it's a really positive sign. That would be a zoning matter, not conservation. If you restrict building, the property is worth less, and we see lower tax revenues. For now, let the sleeping dog lie.
July 12, 2010 at 8:28am · Like


Rick Spring Mark, I beg to differ. This town is overdeveloped. Lower Tax revenues? With the development on the turnpike we are just fine. The mountain needs to stay just the way it is. I believe the dog is waking up again
July 12, 2010 at 7:47pm · Like ·  1 person


Lucy Fleming Mark, WE DO NOT WANT anything built on the mountain. We are trying to preserve what little open space is left in Newington for future generations. As far as tax revenues, the town should be looking to fill the current vacant buildings that are around. Newington is over built as it is!
July 12, 2010 at 7:54pm · Like


Mark Pappa Guys, it's forestry management. Nothing being built. I they wanted to build, they would be clearing. This is geared towards the health of the forest.
July 12, 2010 at 10:35pm · Like


Michael Fox For once I agree with Mark. I walked the area last Thursday and according to the size, amount and locations of the marked trees, Mark is correct. It is good forestry management to harvest a certain number of trees every so often to keep the area salient. There has been no petitions for development at the TPZ, so far. Check out the meeting tonight if you are concerned.
July 13, 2010 at 10:07am · Like ·  1 person


Mark Pappa Mike, it's one big happy Newington family here...thanks for the support. :)
July 13, 2010 at 1:30pm · Like

Raymond C Harlow Mike - BTY the Meeting is the 20th....
July 13, 2010 at 2:23pm · Like
Lisa Rock Namias Mark- totally disagree with the comment you made --- "If you restrict building, the property is worth less, and we see lower tax revenues. For now, let the sleeping dog lie". Nice Catch Rick and Lucy. We are here to Save Cedar Mountain not build on it.
July 14, 2010 at 9:49pm · Like


Jeff Zelek The contractor who will be performing the tree harvesting will present at the July 20th 7pm Conservation Commission meeting to answer questions.
July 17, 2010 at 2:23pm · Like


Raymond C Harlow I think we might need a bigger room.......just sayin....
July 20, 2010 at 6:36am · Like


Mark Pappa Lisa, that is a general comment that is actually true. I am not advocating building. My point, the land is better left the way it is in current form.
July 20, 2010 at 6:59am · Like


Gayle Raducha The daily work by surveyors and contractors continues on Cedar Mountain. The footpaths have been widened, and trees are being cleared. Because I am not a resident of Newington, there is nothing more I can do than to let you know what is going on, and hope that the residents rally again to stop the development of the mountain and the ridge from proceeding. Unfortunately, one day very soon, you will look up at the ridge, and the only view you will have will be that of condominium complexes.
December 3, 2010 at 12:35pm · Like


Gayle Raducha If Toll Bros. is working with Tilcon, this is exactly how they will get their way. the land is zoned residential from Russell Rd to Mountain, which includes the Ridge!!!

July 10, 2010 at 10:44am · Like · 


Tom Bowen Tom Bowen Chair Open Space Comm.
TILCON has owned Balf for some time.
There has been no recent transfer of ownership on the approx. 90 acre piece.
I asked Ed Meahan to look into concerns and there is currently a 'logging' application that has been filed. Trees have been marked and the applicant will go before the Conserv...
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June 30, 2010 at 2:48pm · Like · 

Mark Pappa 
Tom, thanks for the request to Ed Meehan and discovery it actually is a forestry management program to assist with regeneration of the forest. This is common practice. MDC as one of the States largest land owners does this all the time so...See More
June 30, 2010 at 6:50pm · Like


Bernadette Conway Thank you Tom for finding out some specific info. We'll all have to follow these developments to see what comes of it. Maybe by the next Open Space Committee meeting on July 17th we'll have some information to discuss. All are welcome.
June 30, 2010 at 8:47pm · Like


Gayle Raducha 
Just went up to the mountain. The orange surveyors tape is about every 5 ft. along the fence line (the first driveway on the left for the "state revenue dept" building, heading down Russell St, toward the hospital), starting on Russell Rd,...See More
July 1, 2010 at 8:54pm · Like

Mark Pappa Ok Gayle. Hope to learn more as it becomes available.
July 1, 2010 at 9:10pm · Like


Iris Larsson The trees have been marked to identify as hard wood so that they can be sold. Balf/Tilcon is not planning to build houses/condos there.
July 5, 2010 at 6:47pm · Like


Gayle Raducha Tilcon is not planning on building - that is correct. They are in the process of selling the land to Developers, who ARE planning to build. The trees are not being marked to sell. They are being marked to be removed to make access easier for the developers.
July 6, 2010 at 7:35am · Like


Mark Pappa Could be Gayle.
July 6, 2010 at 7:43am · Like


Ettore Namias Mark, isn't it the point of this group to disseminate information? Your last comment seemed to be dismissive to Gayle. Gayle, thanks for keeping us informed.
July 6, 2010 at 5:56pm · Like


Mark Pappa Ettore, wasn't my intention. Sorry Gayle. I really want to know what's going on. I know what to do from here. Peace, MP.
July 6, 2010 at 6:03pm · Like


Gayle Raducha Thank you both. I'm confident in my info, and am worried about the way this is being "cloaked". As most of the action is taking place on this side of the Mt., I'm thinking that Tilcon and the Developer feel less conspicuous. But there is definitely activity, and it's going to get more intense and very invasive.
July 7, 2010 at 9:42am · Like


Mark Pappa Gayle, nothing has come forth on the Conservation Commission as of yet but I am going to take a ride up there to see what type of activity is going on.
July 7, 2010 at 10:17am · Like


Rick Spring Mark The agenda for the next conservation meeting has a reference to this "Application 2010-04, South of 555 Russell Road". Any idea what this may be for?
July 9, 2010 at 7:03pm · Like


Lucy Fleming 
I believe this has to do with Toll Brothers. I searched around and found this link indicating that Toll Brothers may have contacted Tilcon. This is zoned as residential. Thats probably how Toll Brothers is planning on getting their way. We...See More
July 9, 2010 at 8:43pm · Like


Mark Pappa Rick, the agenda is usually sent to me before being approved. I will speak with Tony Ferraro on Monday.
July 10, 2010 at 10:47am · Like


Gayle Raducha There has been a tremendous amount of activity on the mountain this week. Contractors and Surveyors are again marking trees and boundaries all over the mountain. Don't know if they were waiting for things to quiet down, but it looks like they are working very quickly.
November 18, 2010 at 11:15am · Like


Jeff Wright At this point, I have not heard anything on this topic of the piece of property being sold and developed, except some talk on facebook. In addition, the town planner and town manager have not heard anything. This is privately owner piece of property, which is approximately 93 acres. It is zoned R-20, which means someone could build houses on half acre lots. If a developer wants to build anything, they still need to go before TPZ for approval. I am curious to hear where this "information" is coming from and if the source is reliable, because I would like to speak with this person. Sincerely, Jeff

June 28, 2010 at 4:32pm · Like · 

Iris Larsson Thank you Jeff for your comments.
June 28, 2010 at 6:30pm · Like


Gayle Raducha I'm the person that got the info from a reliable source. Let me know if you'd like to discuss off line - I don't want to get him into trouble, and I'd like to keep getting info from him..
June 28, 2010 at 7:32pm · Like


Meg Spera Gilbert 
Let me add that Newington is developed enough and any remaining open space needs to remain as such. The noise, traffic and litter has increased 20 fold in the 20 years we have lived in this town. I can't take a walk without finding beer and coffee cups strewn over lawns on the weekends, or hear someone's speakers blasting out some obnoxious music. I can't say that the town has taken a turn for the better. PLEASE LEAVE SOME SPACE FOR THOSE OF US WHO WANT TO HEAR THE BIRDS INSTEAD OF LADY GAGA or take a walk in the "woods". An effort to preserve Cedar Mountain should be a priority for this town.
June 28, 2010 at 7:47pm · Like

Jeff Wright 
Hi Meg, 
I would like to know what street and/or neighborhood has made such a bad turn for the worse, because perhaps there is something we can do to help. From everything I see and hear on a daily basis in Newington, your remarks do not seem very representative of the Newington I know and love.
June 28, 2010 at 11:25pm · Like


Katie Robinson Obviously Mr. Wright, you haven't taken a stroll down Stoddard Ave. recently. All the noise and the litter are the main reasons my family moved. And my mother was born and raised in Newington, and her father before her. It broke my mother's heart when they tore down the old theater, and she always told me stories of how there were actual fields on Stoddard. I have many fond memories of Cedar mountain, and I'd like to have many more to come.
June 28, 2010 at 11:53pm · Like


Jeff Wright 
Hi Katie,
Stoddard ave is a residential road and secondary road (ie, not a side street), therefore if there is outrageous noice, we need too know about it, so the police can enforce. I am sorry if there is litter, but perhaps the residents can pick-up the litter, because it will keep the neighborhood nicer and govt can't do everything. I constantly pick-up litter on my street, but that is what good neighbors do to protect the quality of their home. I can't comment on fields on that street, because since I was a kid there were not any fields. Things change, it is one of the constances of life and I can't seem to see the connection of Stoddard Ave and Cedar Mtn.
June 29, 2010 at 3:18am · Like ·  1 person

Dee Gable Mayor Wright - I think it is excellent that you are addressing these concerns in this forum. Change certainly is inevitable, and our town has certainly seen plenty of it in my lifetime. I hope that our community will band together and save the last drop of open space on Cedar Mountain. Maybe we need to look at ways to purchase it - I wonder if the citizenship would support that. Please continue this engagement with your constituents, and use your office to help us find a viable solution.
June 29, 2010 at 8:57am · Like


Michael Fox Too much nonsense flying around. Fill up the next TPZ meeting with people who want to know what is happening and ask some pertinent questions.

June 28, 2010 at 2:06pm · Like · 


Danny Quattromani back door politics as usual

June 28, 2010 at 12:46pm · Like · 

Mark Pappa Danny, it's back room. Also, nothing is going on here. All a rumor.
June 28, 2010 at 2:37pm · Like


Gayle Raducha 
unfortunately, it's not a rumor. There are surveyor (orange) tapes on a number of trees throughout the mountain. There are also some trees tagged with orange paint - looks the same as the surveyor tape, just painted on instead of the o...See More
June 28, 2010 at 7:47pm · Like ·  1 person


Chris DuBois What possibly would Tilcon want to develop on this mountain?? For crying out loud, Hunter Development hasn't even touched the corner of E. Cedar and Russell Road for their corner development last I saw. It was supposed to start in March. The foundation of the old Lowe Manufacturing building is still there. Meanwhile, who is looking to redevelop Food Mart plaza? NO ONE. The old Food Mart is quickly deteriorating. Who's looking to fix up the buildings on the corner of Main/Stoddard/Hartford Ave? NO ONE. The old Gulf station property is a wasteland and two businesses occupy the old Briarwood building. This town has it all backwards. I can't say I even know what they are doing these days. Hopefully, an explanation is forthecoming and it better be good.

June 27, 2010 at 9:51pm · Like · 

Gayle Raducha my understanding is that the developer will be building residential- that is what the land is zoned as. This is breaking my heart. the animal displacement will be indescribable. Deer strikes on the tpke and Cedar/wells road will cause numerous accidents, possibly fatal. Our homes will suffer structural damage due to the constant blasting. I contacted the news stations, and they have said they are planning to do a follow up story (from last fall). I will send a "reminder" email today.
June 28, 2010 at 12:59pm · Like ·  1 person


Michael Fox 
The property that Balf(Tilcon) now owns is already zoned residential and they can, if they want, building at anytime. The parcel we are fighting for, and owned(?) by MARCAP, is zoned CD (Commercial Development) and anything on that parcel would have to go before the TPZ, if only to blast or move material off the property.
June 28, 2010 at 1:54pm · Like


Mark Pappa Any sale of this land can be found in town hall.
June 28, 2010 at 2:32pm · Like


Gayle Raducha Aren't we trying to stop any development on the mountain - commercial or residential??
June 28, 2010 at 2:35pm · Like


Michael Fox Yes we are, Gayle. I was just making a comment about the Tilcon residential property. They would have to submit a site plan to TPZ. If it does come before the TPZ, the room needs to be packed with people who would testify against it. As far as the MARCAP property, according to the assessor's online database, they are still the owners. As I said before, and as Mark Pappa said, just rumors. Don't get scared because someone is marking trees. Stay vigilant.
June 28, 2010 at 3:19pm · Like
Michael Fox It would be interesting to know who actually said that work is supposed to start this summer.
June 28, 2010 at 3:20pm · Like ·  1 person


Rich Guglielmo those trees were marked before, they just repainted them. It’s so people know where the trail goes. That trail is also raked out in the summer by the town.
June 28, 2010 at 4:19pm · Like


Gayle Raducha The trees I've seen are not on any trail. These are not "trail markers". It was done by a surveyor.....
June 28, 2010 at 7:49pm · Like
Gayle Raducha The daily work by surveyors and contractors continues on Cedar Mountain. The footpaths have been widened, and trees are being cleared. Because I am not a resident of Newington, there is nothing more I can do than to let you know what is going on, and hope that the residents rally again to stop the development of the mountain and the ridge from proceeding. Unfortunately, one day very soon, you will look up at the ridge, and the only view you will have will be that of condominium complexes.
December 3, 2010 at 12:36pm · Like


Ettore Namias I would like to hear something official about this from some folks who are in the know about town business.

June 18, 2010 at 3:36pm · Like · 

Gayle Raducha I agree. I would like to see something "ON THE RECORD" regarding this - no more side stepping fancy footwork . We deserve to know exactly what is going on. Once the Developer gets started, it will probably be too late to do anything. Right now, I haven't seen anything suggesting they have started, other than the orange tape and orange paint - So the plan is still reversible.
June 28, 2010 at 1:11pm · Like


Gayle Raducha Is there some way we can get this info to all the members of "Save Cedar Mountain"? If they're not checking this site every so often, they won't be aware of what's going on.

June 17, 2010 at 11:29am · Like · 

Kelly Mowchan I have been having problems sending messages to all the members at once. I also have received several complaints from people who do not like to be sent the notices. For now please post any information you wish to share directly on this page.
June 27, 2010 at 7:46pm · Like


Gayle Raducha Absolutely. They're starting to tag trees, and work is scheduled to start clearing sometime this summer. Tilcon is doing the clearing to make the property "more inviting" for the new owners/developers. When I asked about the "Ancient Highway" (dirt road from Russell Rd. - Humane Society to Mountain Rd), they told me they will try to keep a small portion as a path!!! Everytime I see the orange tape and the orange paint on the trees, I feel sick about this whole thing.

June 17, 2010 at 11:26am · Like · 

Mark Pappa Gayle, who's to say they aren't simply engaged in a forestry management program which is very common.
June 28, 2010 at 2:36pm · Like


AliasJean Crow This is just pure evil inspired by nothing other than greed

June 16, 2010 at 7:01pm · Like · 


Marie Ferrantino Facebook needs a "hate" option!!!! :(

June 16, 2010 at 12:57pm · Like · 


Gayle Raducha I found out that Balf has sold the mountain to Tilcon. Tilcon is selling the entire mountain - from Russell Rd to Mountain road, then from the Humane Society to the small piece of state owned behind the hospital. The new owners are developers, and will begin building as soon as possible. The Newington Council seems to have taken this "lull" period to get quite a few pieces of key planning and zoning agreements under the radar. Now What???

June 16, 2010 at 11:28am · Like · 

Bernadette Conway Gayle, what did you find out and from whom? I've been at most of the tpz meetings for the last 6 months or so and nothing has come through the tpz that I've seen concerning development on the mountain.
June 16, 2010 at 8:03pm · Like


Kelly Mowchan I would also like to know where this information has come from.
June 27, 2010 at 7:45pm · Like


Iris Larsson About the rumor... it seems like it is exactly like that. Who started it and why?
June 28, 2010 at 6:33pm · Like


Gayle Raducha I was on the mountain yesterday, and there a suspicious number of "marked" trees. It looks like instead of orange surveyor tape, they used orange spray paint to mark trees. It's not paint ball - there are a bunch of trees with that. This looks like someone specifically went out and sprayed an orange ring around th...
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June 9, 2010 at 10:29am · Like · 


Bernadette Conway The TPZ has presented the Town Plan to the Town Council. Please support the revised Plan at the next town council meeting this Tuesday, June 8. If you cannot attend the meeting, email or call your councilors to show your support.

June 5, 2010 at 5:58pm · Like · 


Bernadette Conway Just a reminder, the TPZ is presenting the Town 2020 Plan this Wednesday in the Town Council chambers at 7pm in a powerpoint presentation. They have worked very hard on it and we should all take a look at it and make comments/suggestions.

April 26, 2010 at 5:11pm · Like · 


Ettore Namias Little upset that some individuals dumped something off the overlook. Planning with neighbor to go up to check it out and hopefully clean it up.

April 24, 2010 at 6:09pm · Like · 

Bernadette Conway Me too, I was up there last week and there was alot of trash dumped off the peak of it. I've never seen it like that before. Let me know when you go up and I'll clean it up with you.
April 26, 2010 at 5:09pm · Like


Ettore Namias Hey Bern,
Went up on Sunday morning. You couldn't imagine the amount of junk we hauled down from there. Rick took a pic and maybe will post it up later. But now, looking at the ridge line it looks a lot better. :)
May 3, 2010 at 10:22pm · Like


Bernadette Conway Thank you Ettore! I can't believe people made such a mess up there. They really had to go out of their way to drag all that mess up there and dump it off the peak like that. So disappointing.
May 4, 2010 at 5:44pm · Like


Marilyn Miller Interesting editorial comments in this week's Town Cryer. I guess Mark Pappa needs to do more homework before asking for Council members to recuse themselves from voting. Actually he did bring up some points about commissioner/councilors and voting practices. I have been saying Developers and Realtors should NEVER even be on the TPZ unless they are willing to share their expertise from an alternate position with NO voting privileges. That would truly be THE RIGHT THING to do. There is absolutely no way either group of people should be allowed to be on such a powerful town committee--THINK ABOUT IT -without putting personalities into the equation. Our Town government needs to be transparent and without any cause for concern about ethical questions.

April 17, 2010 at 9:28pm · Like · 


Marge Banach Town Council Meeting tonight at 7pm. NO money was allotted for open space for next year's budget in the Capital Improvements Program. The irony is that there is support among some councilors for transferring money from Capital Improvements to spending the money for artificial turf for the midget football field. The vo...
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April 13, 2010 at 7:52am · Like · 


Marilyn Miller Has anyone heard from the Trust For Public Land? I heard Wethersfield apparently got some money from them, to save some land--I don't have the details yet. When I wrote to tpl last fall - they wrote back and said they had heard from several people about Cedar Mountain already. I haven't heard anything more--I recently forwarded The Trust For Public Land info & application to Our Mayor. Maybe He can delegate someone to look into it officially.

The Trust for Public Land--Conservation and Parks for People.
www.tpl.org
A land conservation and open space resource for landowners, government agencies and community groups interested in protecting land for human enjoyment.

April 1, 2010 at 10:36pm · Like ·  · Share


Marge Banach If you didn’t catch the town council meeting last night in person or on local tv, watch the rerun! It is defintely worth your viewing for more information.

April 1, 2010 at 8:04am · Like · 


Kelly Mowchan Added on 3/31/10

Please "right click" and "save as" to your computer where you can open it in another program and make it larger (if this is hard to see)

Save Cedar Mountain! Photos

March 31, 2010 at 4:25pm · Like ·  · Share